Responses: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Greetings Charlie Company,

I have finished sending out my article “Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company” to our mailing list. It was also posted on our website and there have been some responses from readers posted in the “guestbook” page of our site. I hope you will read them. There has also been many personal email responses to me from fellow Vietnam veterans and others who were not in the military. I thought you would be interested in what some of them have said about all of you, as well as their own experiences. With some reservations, I am including some responses that are so distorted and confusing they take your breath away. But confusion and misunderstanding is something all Vietnam veterans have experienced before, so I thought you should read what goes on in the minds and hearts of those who oppose what I have written. You will find in these emails below that I have left intact the email addresses of those who responded to your story and my observations, so that you can email them if you so desire. Just click on their names.

Again, it is an honor to have met all of you, and for that I am grateful to Larry Ward. My life will never be the same after meeting and listening to all of you. Carol and I are anxiously looking forward to being with you next year in St. Louis, and I want to thank those who emailed inviting us to the next reunion. As you well know, the economic chaos that has descended upon this earth, centered in America, is threatening the livelihood of many people and families. As I told Larry, this is all part of the unfolding prophecies of the “end times” given to the apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ and the prophets of Israel revealed in the Old Testament.

We are in for a roller-coaster of a ride as this world system, led by the fallen angels, begins to feel the heat of God’s judgment for the depravity and moral deterioration of society. The political-religious-economic confusion among the leaders of this nation, and the world in general, is heartbreaking as they reject the person and/or teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ. Tragically, many who today refuse Jesus the Christ will accept Satan’s Antichrist who will first come on the scene declaring himself to be a follower of Christ, then bringing peace to the Holy Land. Remember, Judas was also a follower of Jesus but rejected the teachings of the Lord and betrayed him to his enemies.

I have asked this before and it bears repeating often. How can any rational human being reject the God/Man who willingly shed his blood for everyone’s sin, then rose bodily from the dead and ascended into Heaven leaving his promise to return at the end of the age? Over five-hundred people at one time witnessed the resurrected Son of God and heard his promise to return. They also heard him promise to send the Holy Spirit to give us new hearts free from the power of sin, thereby making us his Kingdom ambassadors and witnesses until he returns in judgment.

Your eternal friend,


From: the-refuge
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Jack…. I was at that bridge and watched the massacre from the huey C&C ship I was a crew chief in. To this day I still feel the helplessness in what we couldn’t do to help those grunts on the ground. I guess I’ll just have to live with it.


From: Jack Hook
To: the-refuge
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Hi J. Your short email stopped me in my tracks. I was stunned when I read that you were there, watching from above. Please know that my new friends from Charlie Company would love to hear your testimony about that dreadful day. If you would like to write your story down with as many details as you can recollect, I will be glad to send it to them. They would be extremely grateful, as would I. By the way, what is your full name? It must be longer than “J”. How has all of this affected your faith in God and our Lord Jesus Christ? Your eternal friend. Jack

From: the-refuge
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:53 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Dear Brother Jack,

To this day I do not know how you got hold of my email address, but I am not complaining. It’s always good to meet another brother in Christ.

That day of the massacre was one of the worst days in my life and I really don’t want to remember the details. You see, I was in the Little Bears and most of us were a bit crazy when it came to supporting the grunts. The many crazy “devil may care” acts we did defied common sense. But I guess that was one reason why we were so successful in doing what we did.

That day I was the crewchief/doorgunner on a C&C (Command and Control) ship (huey). We were flying some colonel to wherever his desires would take us all…. but he wasn’t one of my favorite people (thank God I don’t remember his name). We got the call about the attack so we went over to get a bird’s eye view of the “action”. Once we arrived and assessed the situation we (the crew) wanted to supply some covering fire for those grunts, but the colonel didn’t want to fly too low because he was afraid of being shot down. So we just sat up there feeling totally helpless like somehow our “manhood” was just cut off. All too well do I remember how single men and small groups of men would get up and try to run for cover (where there wasn’t any) only to be cut down in that road. It was not a very good sight to behold and to this day I still weep when I think of how helpless we were to do anything.

I think I even have some slides of that action, but I’m not sure just where they are. I would have to really dig through my “stuff” just to find the boxes of slides that I took while in Nam.

About 4 years ago I took my wife and another fellow believer who was in the Little Bears with me back to Nam for two excellent weeks of closure. Today we support a Christian family (a single mom and two children) in the Danang area and we hope to return there to physically meet them one day. It makes me feel good that I can finally do something good for someone over there, especially someone who is a believer in our savior and Lord.

My name is Jay Marion and I live in Candia, NH. If you’d like you can call me anytime (603-483-8918).

In Christ,


My faith has only grown over the years. There have been many times when I didn’t make the right decisions in life and had to pay a terrible price. For many years I thought that I was THE one in control of my life and that God wasn’t really interested in someone like myself. It took some very negative experiences to wake me up and give me the realization that God wants to be in control of my life and that all I had to do is to get into His word and “let go” of the steering wheel so He could do the steering.

I’m still learning (and relearning) how to trust God and to patiently wait on Him (which is another long story for another time). I miss not having fellow believers like yourself who have “been there” (in combat) close by. I really do miss the fellowship time with such people.

Currently I am a 100% disabled vet with a lot of time on my hands. While we attend a really good church there are no combat vets in attendance and I am afraid to “open up” to anyone who hasn’t been there because of past rejections and blank stares.

By the way, where do you live ?

In Christ,

From: Jack Hook
To: the-refuge
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Greetings Jay,

Thanks for sharing a little bit about that day so long ago. You have said enough that will help many of my friends from Charlie Company put some of the pieces together in their minds. As you know, the experiences we had in Vietnam are still in our memories whether we want them there or not. Like you, it wasn’t until the Lord Jesus Christ became my Savior and Lord, that I really understood my own sin nature and how that was connected to wars among men and nations who are manipulated by the fallen angels. Now it is all more clear to me.

The men from Charlie Company have become eternal friends through Larry Ward, and I want to help them all understand our need for Jesus to come into our lives to give us peace and comfort, and an understanding of the prophecies surrounding his return to this planet.

As I said in my article, I was assigned as a logistics officer in Saigon and not a combat officer like my friend Larry, even though the first few weeks of Tet made me feel like one when one of my truck drivers was killed by a sniper. Could you also explain more about the Little Bears for I will be sending our exchanges to my friends? Carol and I live in Phoenix and my number is 623-937-6280.

Your brother in Jesus,

**Jay did not email me back, but picked up the phone and called me the same day. It was a conversation I will never forget. I asked him about that day when he watched from above as Charlie Company was being massacred. Here is what he said: He told me he was on a routine mission with some bird Colonel from another unit assigned with the 25th Infantry Division, but not connected to the Manchu Regiment. While in the air, the pilots were notified by radio that a major battle was taking place by the bridge at Hoc Mon. The Colonel then instructed the pilot to change course to take a look at what was happening on the ground. He also instructed the pilot to stay high enough to escape ground fire as he wanted only to observe.

Jay then said over the phone, as he had written in the email above, how he watched helplessly as the men from Charlie Company tried to escape the relentless fire from the enemy positions in the tree-lines. He pleaded with the Colonel to order the pilot to go lower so he could provide covering fire to the soldiers on the ground, but he refused to do so. Jay then recounted to me some stories of other battles where his chopper pilots would descend upon enemy positions fully knowing the risk, but desiring to assist and save the lives of other Americans who were in mortal danger. I could feel the sorrow and pain in his voice as he recounted that day at Hoc Mon. He said the fearful Colonel kept circling overhead for over an hour, never making any attempt to intervene.

Then Jay began to explain to me how this horrible experience helped change his life, and how it brought him to a deeper faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. He seems to be a very learned man who has studied the scriptures for himself. He shared with me his understanding of prophecy surrounding the return of the Lord and how America fits into these coming events. I asked him if it was alright to include his exchanges with me in my next letter to all of you. He said he would love to meet and talk with all of you.

From my conversation with Jay, I am now fully convinced that his coming forward to explain what happened to him at Hoc Mon was supernaturally directed by God himself to bless each of us who met in San Antonio. For I have over five-thousand people on my mailing list who received my article “Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company” from every walk of life, and from every religion and many nations on this planet. I really had never met Jay or knew anything about him other than he responded in the past to my invitation to visit our website, which he did and then emailed me back. I then added his name to my mailing list.**


From: Michael Herrera
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company


I am at work at this time so I will have to read this later. But I know you are talking about the biblical context
of war in this article. I have written a book entitled, Rendezvous with Divine Destiny: The Spiritual Journey of
a Vietnam Veteran. I have a chapter called, War And The Sixth Commandment, that attempts to neutralize all
the high sounding arguments some Christians have about serving in the military. My book can be ordered on-line
through all the major bookseller such as Barnes and Noble.

Michael “Doc” Herrera


From: John and Betty Henchman
To: JDhook@cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:51 AM
Subject: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company


Thank you very much for your long message. For those you have singled out for mention, there are so many more that suffered in the jungles of War Zone D before we were sent to Hau Nghia Province with the mission to stop the NVA from firing rockets on Ton Son Nhut Air Base after Tet had wound down. It was while in Hau Nghia that the Battalion was ordered down that now infamous bridge in the little village of Hoc Mon. It was the worst nightmare that anyone could imagine, and it sticks in every one’s mind as if it were yesterday. I pray every day for those killed that day, and all the many other that died elsewhere in my command, and all those who suffer from wounds of body and mind. There was much pain for so many in my Battalion for months on end, yet every single man, regardless of rank or age, draftee or professional soldier, always was a soldier and all that that means-always a MANCHU, always living out our Battalion Motto: Keep Up The Fire. You have managed to put a face to agony and faith faced by soldiers and their families which transcends what most are unable to articulate.

I, myself, am a dedicated Catholic that believes and practices each day all the things that you put so well. In the end, while some may profess to be atheists, or agnostics, there is built into us by God a soul that seems to always be there no matter what the brain-or Satan–may try to tell us. I have served with men (and later women) of every faith-some hold their faith strongly, others loosely. In the end, however, when in mortal pain, it is the presence and healing power of God-however one may choose to define Him, that seems to come to mind.

The first time I held a mortally wounded soldier’s head in my lap while he gave up his last ounce of blood was on Heartbreak Ridge in Korea (my first war). His last words were “tell my mother that I shall remember her in heaven”. He believed. Time and again I have seen great faith displayed on the battlefield by every faith. You and I understand the Importance of Jesus in our life. We can weep for those that do not believe.

I missed the Reunion this year because I was on a long planned trip with my son who was coming out of Alaska after 33 years there. However, I will be at the Reunion in St. Louis. I would be very happy to see you there should you care to join us again. We are always welcoming to anyone who has given his or her time to our country, including our wonderfully patient and dedicated spouses and friends.

Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and deep faith with me.

Warm Regards

John Henchman (MANCHU 6)

Battalion Commander, October 1, 1967–March 2, 1968


From: Mikey Weinstein
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

………..DISGUSTING!!!…..so, Jack, the only good American soldier is a fundamentalist Christian American soldier???!!!??……….while I sincerely thank you for your brave and courageous combat service to our country, Jack, I am sickened beyond measure by your bigoted sectarian religious rhetoric….of COURSE you are fully entitle to your own religious views, but when you send this tripe out to The World, sir, you WILL hear from those of us who heartily disagree………good sir, you were NOT fighting for the “Lord Jesus Christ” in Vietnam………you and your valiant comrades took and oath to and WERE fighting for our United States Constitution and our nation………the USA is a secular nation where all faiths may prosper but none are favored and we do NOT cleave our citizens into those who are the children of the “greater” God and those who are children of the “lesser” or no God at all…….it’s against our American law to do so!!…………I am the President and Founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, MRFF, (www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org) and we are dedicated to preserving the Constitutionally-mandated wall separating church and state in the U.S. military………….we have well over 9,000 active duty soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen, guard, reserves, coastguardsmen and vets who comprise our constituency……more joining daily in droves……….and 96% OF THEM ARE PRACTICING CHRISTIANS, Jack!!…..3/4 of that number are traditional Protestants and the remaining 1/4 of that 96% are Roman Catholic………ergo, merely 4% of our MRFF clients are NOT Christians……and our “4%non-Christian” MRFF service member clients are every bit as good as our Christian MRFF service member clients……….our Christian MRFF clients are just being horrifically persecuted by their fundamentalist Christian military superiors (like YOU, apparently!) for allegedly NOT being “Christian enough”!!……….with all due respect, Jack, consider taking a hard look in the mirror before you send this Christian military supremacy stuff out please….PLEASE!!…….it makes you sound like an American version of the Taliban…………what??….did you NEVER EVER encounter a non-fundamentalist Christian fellow American brother or sister in arms during your admittedly stellar service in ‘Nam who was worth a tinker’s damn in your tragically prejudiced eyes??!!…..if not, I’ll be happy to point some out for you…….in point of fact, MANY, sir!!………there were those who very bravely fought and died and were wounded at Hoc Mon, during Tet, at Khe Sahn, and ALL of the other battles known and unknown, who did NOT share your personal biblical worldview of the Gospel of Jesus Christ…….they were and are deserving of this nation’s most profound thanks as well, jack!!…….to those Americans, your nauseatingly judegement-biased tome below does NOT honor, respect or pay tribute as per the teachings of Paul or anyone else………as Jesus said in The Sermon on the Mount, “Judge not lest ye be judged”……..offered with boundless gratitude for your exceptional service to our beautiful, religiously neutral nation and respect for you as my fellow American, MIkey Weinstein


From: melissa flear
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Dear Jack, I had an epiphany and was curious as to your view. What if everything that is currently happening in the world today is the “knocking at the door?” Wars and rumors of wars, the middle east (the area where civilization began and will end) being in the spotlight, the issues with Russia, inflation, recession, gay marriage. The list goes on and on. What if Barack Obama is the final Anti-Christ? He’s so “charismatic”. A word the Bible uses to describe him. I can picture an assassination attempt on him by some racist if he becomes president. A fatal wound, but he won’t die… Does this frighten you as much as it does me? My email is missymae85@hotmail.com. I’m on your mailing list. -Melissa


From: James Miles
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Enjoyed the article on Charlie Company. This was a typical combat story of most American combat units. Having served three combat tours in Nam 1962, 66-67 and 70-71 with Special Forces I know how tough it was for those of us who actually did the fighting. At one time there was a 9 to 1 ratio 9 rear echelon troops supporting one combat troop in the field. We referred to them as REMF troops. What used to irritate me most was the large number of troops who never heard a round fired in anger and lived better in Nam than they had in the states. Don’t get me wrong support troops were necessary but I believe the ratio to combat troops was too great. The same for staff officers who lived in luxury in large compounds and never faced a day in combat. During my last tour in 70-71 I was temporarily assigned to a J-3 section in Can Tho in the Delta awaiting a field assignment. I never saw so many majors, LTC’s and colonels in my life. I was given a small desk, no phone and nothing to do. From what I saw nobody seemed to do much of anything except shuffle papers. I noticed a sgt in a jeep would arrive early each morning and I asked him what his job was. He said he drove for the officers and did I need to go somewhere. I asked if he knew where the PX was. So for the next week the sgt and I went to the PX and drove around. One day we went to the SF compound and I asked the CO if he had heard of the Border Ranger Det. He said sure do major they’re right behind my headquarters. I had been told in Saigon that I since I was an SF officer I was being asgd to a new outfit ARVN Border Ranger Bns. Went I got to Can Tho no one had ever heard of the Border Rangers. Anyhow I met my boss LTC Jim Witek who wanted to know where I had been. I said sitting on my butt in the J-3 shop. Had I been a general I would have sent all those loafers I saw to the field with rucksacks and rifles. Anyhow I headed out to Chi Lang in Chau Doc province and took on the NVA and local VC in the battle of “Seven Mountains.” The ARVN Border Rangers kicked their butts big time.

From there I was reassigned to the Special Mission Advisory Group (SMAG) in Nha Trang as operations officer. SMAG was a MACSOG unit. We setup shop in the old Recondo compound and then moved to the 5th SF Gp compound shared with the VN SF dubbed Special Mission Services SMS. I was there when the 5th SF colors were sent stateside. About 400 SF troops remained behind.

I was a SSG lt wpns NCO on an A-Team from the 1st SFGA Okinawa during my first tour in 1962. We were asgd to Song Mao with the ARVN 10th Abn Ranger Bn. We trained them, put them thru jump school, equipped them and made 9 parachute jumps with the Bn. One day we went to an old French airstrip to pickup supplies being flown in on C-123s. A bunch of troops showed up and several helicopters came in. The first one off was none other then SecDef Robert MacNamara along with several generals, one was Gen. Lemitzer. We lined up and the next thing you know I was shaking hands with the SecDef. Gen. Lemitzer said “now let me see sgt you’re with the 503rd from Okinawa. I said No Sir 1st Special Forces Gp Okinawa. I thought here I am wearing my green beret and the top general doesn’t even know who we are. I should have asked MacNamara if they were going to let us win the war.

There was a plaque maintained at the 5th SF Gp compound in Nha Trang with the names of SF troops KIA. The first three names were all from the 1st Gp in Okinawa. Cpt. Herman Durwatcher killed in a grenade accident in 1962 and SSG Marchand and Sp Gabriel killed in a VC ambush in 1962 during my first tour. By the time the war ended there were hundreds of names on the plaque.

My second tour 66-67 I was a captain (inf OCS) and CO of SF Det A-428 in Chau Doc province in the Delta. By then I began to have doubts about the outcome of the war a war that we were winning. We couldn’t take the war to the north and we couldn’t go after the enemy in Cambodia or Laos. Any time it got too tough for the enemy they would retreat across the border.

By the time my third tour 70-71 came along their was no doubt we were being ordered to “cut and run” after winning all the battles. The US military never lost a major battle in Vietnam. In his 1985 memoirs NVA Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap admitted that following the Easter Offnesive in 1972, where they lost 50,000 – 75,000 troops and over 700 tanks, they were ready to surrender. Giap also admitted that Tet was a disaster for the NVA. Had the US continued the bombing of Hanoi for even two more days they would have surrended. Thanks to traitors like Sen. John Kerry and all the peace creeps we pulled out and let the NVA win. Now the place is run by a bunch of armed communist thugs. Thanks to Clinton we have diplomatic relations with them and they still haven’t given a full accounting of MIA’s.

Following my retiremment in 1973 I made a trip to Laos in 1975 to see for myself how the place was after the communist Pathet Lao took over. I speak Thai so I could get by in Laos and they thought I was a Catholic priest. Armed, uniformed, communist thugs were running the place. You couldn’t enter any of the govt. buildings which were either surrounded by barbed wire or cleared spaces and patrolled armed guards. The people were enjoying the pleasures of communism.

I fought in six major campaigns during the Vietnam War and lost many. many good friends American and Vietnamese in a war that our own government wouldn’t let us win. Now the Democrats in Congress are trying the same stunt in Iraq. God help us if they win the White House in Nov.

Col. Jim Miles, TXSG (Ret)


From: Melton Brown
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Jack , although I am not in total agreement with all you say , I do understand why you are saying it. I also am a Vietnam veteran and a professional soldier who is retired..Moreover , I too love the lord and pray for his return(even so come lord Jesus). May the lord watch over you my christian and veteran brother. Master Sergeant M.Brown, United States Army,(Ret.)


From: ray47@earthlink.net
To: jdhook@cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:05 PM
Subject: Reunion

I read your take on the reunion in San Antonio.. I was with of the “Contingent of Engineers”.. I am obligated to correct your statement ; It is through the Grace Of God that “have restrained the diseases and restored the life of yor body for a time.” The surgeon and medicines are simply the tools.

“Government scientists have proven this to be true. When compared to the average population, these deadly diseases are much more prevalent and struck us at earlier ages than normal. In my case, insulin resistance leading to diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease which necessitated open-heart surgery, have almost taken me down. But the skillful hands of a heart surgeon and multiple medicines have restrained these diseases and restored the life of my body for a time.”

From: Jack Hook
To: ray47@earthlink.net
Sent: 10/2/2008 9:15:56 AM
Subject: Re: Reunion

Greetings Ray,

Thank you for clarifying who it is that really restrains the sickness and disease within our bodies. I now wish I had written this more clearly in my article. Obviously, you are a fellow believer in our Lord Jesus Christ. I remember the last night in San Antonio, at the dinner, when the “engineers” were singled out and thanked for their service with the Manchus. Was that you, were you there that evening? Keep in touch.

Your brother in Jesus,

From: ray47@earthlink.net
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: Reunion

That was me and my fellow engineers. We were all A Company 65th. Engineers in 1967. And, all part of the action on February. 26th. Of the 5 of us present, I was the only one that experienced the 1968 Tet .

Have you read Larry James book UNFORTUNATE SONS?

Best wishes.


From: winston wade
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

hey jack, just read your manchu letter, it brought back a lot of memories very similar to my own experiences as a combat medic with the 4th infantry (66-67 tuy hoa, plei djereng, jackson hole, and pleiku). todays world makes little sense, it seems like the world we all thought we were in the war for was stolen by the politicians and liberals. the part of your letter mentioning fallen angels seems an apt description of the politicians who are now running our country which is rapidly failing. they say we get the government we deserve and i suppose that is the case as i don’t think there is one of them that isn’t completely sold out and none who have anyones intrests at heart except their own power and greed and opportunities for more corruption. i guess the best that can be said for it is we have lived in some interesting times, take care bro.


From: frag
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Sorry don’t believe religion has anything to do with war and personally i don’t believe in xristianity.


From: Brant Strum
To: ‘Jack Hook’
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Thank-You Sir,

I cannot thank-you enough Sir for including me in your mailing list. The stories below had me crying more than once for you and those soldiers. I believe our Father in heaven will not condemn the soldier for taking others lives, they are victims of the governments they fight for. Soldiers are doing what they think they should do as previously trained, when they are in perilous times the training can save them. Our way of life has not been as originally intended for us on this earth by our Father in heaven.

Many of my family have served in the Canadian military in WWI, WWII, and Korea. My Dad, my Uncles, my Granddad. I listen to their stories, and they are filled with sadness, fear, pain, suffering, and they are also filled with triumph and love for their fellow man. To survive being in the very place where Satan is at his happiest, pure hell. War is the devils playground, where men are in battle taking each other`s lives,,,,and then Satan jumps for joy. Here is a few stories for you. All these men below, know there is NO glory in War……


From: Harenet73@aol.com
To: JDHook@cox.net
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Dear Jack,

Thank you for sharing a very heartfelt, profound letter. These men who are your buddies deserve our highest respect, support, thanks and prayers…I wouldn’t want to live the nightmares they’ve had to endure for so many years….Yet today, thousands and thousands have paid with their lives and have suffered lifelong injuries both physical and mental…Not to mention the families involved…My heart goes out to all of them!

The part that still baffles me is how so many wars have been fought since Jesus appeared on earth, all in the name of freedom, yet you say Jesus postponed warfare in the New Testament? Why is it then that I’ve never heard any preaching EVER from the pulpit condemning warfare? I know that Jesus never encouraged involvement in the Roman government because many zealots following Him indeed wanted to take up the sword and fight for the cause in His day. They even misunderstood the reason Christ came to earth! Jesus then said, “My kingdom is not of this earth.” I agree, but no one correlates the Lord’s statement as being relevant today, regarding warfare, as Jesus said in scripture! It’s easy to miss because people automatically remember the Lord leading Israel in numerous confrontations in the Old Testamen & assume it’s legitimate in any age. That’s the catch…They really don’t think much about it. Neither Christians I’ve known nor men of God I’ve listened to through the years preach, have ever spoken against war!…How could this have been missed? Yet everyone knows about the downfall of man in the garden, even that satan is the prince of the power of the air? Why has it been completely silent behind the pulpits? I think I remember only the Quakers condemning war in a movie I watched starring Gary Cooper & Anthony Perkins. In the film they refused to take up arms and kill anyone. Is it just lack of knowledge of the scriptures? Satan blinds men to many things, but the Holy Spirit usually gives them insight once their eyes are opened! Could everyone be this blind???? I haven’t done much research Jack, I admit it because it simply never dawned on me until I came across your website. Did any men of God in the past preach against war besides the Quakers? I’ve heard myriad sermons about many subjects, but NEVER one preached about not going to war because Jesus condemned it. After all this, what must the Lord be thinking? Apparently we aren’t suppose to defend our country when terrorists and criminals run rampant? I just don’t understand all of it Jack. I’d like to say I do, without a doubt, but I’m just not sure. It’s something to seriously pray about though…

Thanks for a great letter…I’d like to learn more, but this will definitely not be accepted in the American body of Christ, that’s for sure. They are gung ho patriotic and without any reservation most believe in defending our country. I’ve never seen so much deception, or division in the church and the nation today. America is under the delusion that wars are completely reasonable to maintain freedom and peace…It’s one of the few things they DO AGREE UPON. Was there ever a time when God would have directed us to go to war since our country was founded? Gee, honestly, I’m not completely sure about many things. I need to bring these serious matters before the throne of God, as I know you’d always suggest first. Jack, you know that the things you speak about on your website, and this letter, will never sit well with Americans in general nor with Amercian Christians.

God Bless you, and help us ALL understand everything the way He intended…..May the Holy Spirit take the scales off everyone’s eyes…



From: tookerfam@att.net
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company


I sent that out to about 175 people… Many of whom are on their second deployment to Iraq, and many VN vets. Many are children of VN vets. They will read that and be moved. I said that there is life after the foxhole experience… as in there are no athiests in in foxholes.

Thanks for your service.


From: darrell womack
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:25 AM
Subject: RE: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Jack, thanks for sending me another newsletter. Do you still live in Phoenix? The reason I ask, I have a friend who did live there and as you know, for one reason or another we are no longer in touch. He is quite a character. He was a POW in the Hanoi Hilton, he managed to escape a couple of times and was pretty much a problem for the VC so they let him go in the first batch released. You may even know him, if he is still in Phoenix spend some time with him. His name is Leroy Smalley former marine and was from Missouri I believe. The last I heard of him he was having problems with his marraige. This guy was awarded the Navy Cross twice I believe. He professed to be a Christian, but I am not completely convinced. It has been several years since I was last in touch with him and I just cant shake the feeling that he has some serious issues to deal with. Maybe Jesus could use this wonderful wwbsite to help Brother Smalley. In His service, Darrell Womack.

P.S. Please continoe to pray for our ministry here in the Dominican Republic. Jack I most certainly will stay in touch. I have very few friends anymore. Not everyone can understand a “grunt” who no longer wants to be like we were before. I remember the feeling after I was saved. What am I doing here? I felt that was another person who did those things. I remember a vision that I had while I was going to Bible College. Assemblies of God Sacramento. I was working as a white water rafting guide for Mother Lode rafting in Coloma CA. to help pay the cost of college. The VA doesnt pay everything and you still have to eat.
Anyway, one morning I was sitting beside the American River and it was really misty. I had just passed a long night, cold sweats, no sleep and wondering how much longer I could keep this up. As I was looking through the fog and listening to the river I began to distinguish someone in the distance walking along the river bank. AS this person came closer I could see he was dressed in tiger stripe utilities, his face was marked with cammie stick in the same pattern of the utilities”fatigues for you Army types” in his right hand I could see a K-Bar knife that had blood running off the tip, not dripping, but flowing from the tip of the K-Bar like it was the scource of that crimson flow. This person climbed over the rocks with the prowess of a jungle cat. It was apparant that this was the ultimate warrior. He moved with perfect grace and ease to where I was now standing. When he finally stopped in front of me it was like I was “looking at myself” with the exception his eyes were grey and death was pouring out of ever fiber of his being. He looked into my blue eyes and slowly one tear fell down his painted face. He did an about face and left in exactly the same manner that he had come. Cat-like and swift. Since that day I have not had a single nightmare. Praise be to the most high God. In His service, Darrell


From: son of the south
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

jack these story,s moved me very deeply, as i was in the 101st airborne
2nd of the 1/502 infantry and went on alot of ambush mission,s as the
r.t.o, that old prick 25 was heavy to tote around with the ruck and
other equipment we carried,i will never forget, and i have found no
peace with remembering all the things that happen the good and the bad,
dont think i ever will,i have ask,ed god to give me some peace of mind
and heart,some say when where you in vietnam i say just last nite, like
all the guys you wrote about i have problems from p.s.t.d. and from the
agent orange, and i never got my bronze star, may not mean much to some,
but it did to me, i left the 101 in72 and was send to co c 87th inf gave
all my paper,s and my recomendation for the b.s. to the sgt at vung tai,
never heard any thing else about it, when i inqured about . the army
just give me the old run around, and excuse,s and even threaten me for
asking about my b.s. so i just quit trying to find the paper work they
said i was not awared this b.s. i guess not the sgt more then likey
threw my paper in the trash, some day i hope before i get the call from
the major comander up stair,s i will get my just due, i belive their is
a higher power and hope iam worthy enough to join his army, some day,i
just hope! take care my brother h.lee owens


To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Thanks Jack for your letter and for sharing with me. I understand what you are saying and it was like seeing old friends hearing the stories. As I read them I wanted to stop reading and just not think of it but I could not stop until the end. My late wife would try to keep me from reading about that time and even watching a movie about it. She said she could tell it hurt me to do so. It was several years before I saw the movie platoon. Hearing these stories brings images to mind and emotions we all try to keep in check so we can just go on from day to day.Well I better go now just wanted to say thanks and I will pass the letter on.


From: Pat and Laurie Lubomski
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: of Charlie Company

this part is just crap…. you are Using your credible past to further a not so credible biblical scam purported by the devil …. generation has witnessed the return of the Jewish people to form a sovereign Israel in 1948, thereby fulfilling the very prophecy that would start the clock which ends with the second coming of Jesus Christ to imprison Satan and his fallen angels, and to make war against those men and rulers who refuse to bend the knee at the cross of Jesus Christ for salvation from the sin nature which controls all of us. I hope that my new friends from Charlie Company will join me in prayer and ask God for wisdom in these important matters. And those of you on my mailing list, and those who will read this on my web site, please love, honor, and respect all veterans and pray for these great men I have introduced you to today.


From: Janice Huse
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Hi Jack!

I don’t know how I got on your mailing list, but I praise God that I did! Your e-mail brought both tears and rejoicing. It is so refreshing, yet so rare, to hear truth these days. Thank you for bring one who shares God’s truth.

Lord bless you,
Janice Huse


From: kimsegar1@aol.com
To: jdhook@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:40 AM
Subject: I would love to be on your mailing list..

My husband was in nam too..these stories are very moving.G-d Bless Kim


From: Roger Cooper
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company






From: alright4u@aol.com
To: JDHook@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Sounds like you have found deep inner peace.

Like you, I was in country in 68-69 and was medivaced out after 7 days in RVN hospitals.

God has a purpose for all of us who will merely ask and turn our life over to Him.


From: Rick Thornell
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

hello jack.

i’am rick thornell, vietnam combat marine veteran (1965-1966), after review of charlie company it reminded me of my friends and battles we were in.

young and well trained even after many battles, our faith in each other and our heavenly father gave us comfort and courage to prtotect the freedom we all have today.

pray for all our mailtary aboard fighting to still protect our freedom today and in the future for our children.


From: kaiser64@shaw.ca
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Some observations on your recent inane ramblings.

Firstly I note that god has blessed you with arthritis, diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease; what a sign of benevolence!
Dan McKinny sees it as a good thing that he survives a battle in Viet nam. Do you think his friends who died would also see it as a good thing? It’s too bad your god given compassion for the men of Charlie Company wasn’t also reflected by god’s compassion towards all those who were killed, no doubt because they were sinners.

Yes. yes, the shed blood of Jesus, good ole JC, also god and also a ghost, brought sin into the world and then came down here and had himself killed by those dastardly pagan Romans to save us all. What a guy! Yippee! Hip-hip hooray! He is a myth Jack, he never existed, just like his daddy, the big invisible dude in the sky.

Now good old god has blessed your friend Larry with leukemia. Praise the lord! Hallelujah! Shout glory!
The skilled hands of the surgeon and multiple medicines saved you Jack? What, not god? The big guy just never seems to save anyone, what a loser. But, you reply, he endowed the surgeon with the skills to save me, leaving me to ask why he introduced sin into the human race in the first instance.

The Bird was sent by god to tell you funny stories! You have to love a god with a sense of humour, even though there is nowhere in the Bible where he demonstrates that he possesses one. But, he certainly loves war, according to all the killing he condones in that bullshit book, even women and children don’t escape his wrath. “kill them all” is god’s motto. A Viet Cong wearing a cross getting killed and the Bird spending 10 years in the hospital! God certainly works in mysterious ways.

JC forbids Christians to make war! Gee, why doesn’t he stop the wars? What about all the killing by Christians over the centuries, using god’s name as justification; the Inquisition, crusades, witch burnings, slavery, murder of much of the indigenous people of the Americas invoking god’s name, and on and on? What a joke. Christianity has been the biggest disaster to ever afflict the human race. A complete disaster..

Don Crowley, a Chaplin no less, picks up all 58 dead men and this reminds you how much a loving, merciful god hates war? Did you never think to ask yourself Jack, why he lets it happen? Has that thought never crossed your mind? Again, all part of god’s great plan for humankind. Some plan!

There is not going to be a second coming Jack, there wasn’t even a first coming; Jesus is a myth, a lie concocted by unscrupulous, gullible, ignorant men, 2,000 years ago. JC never existed. Did you never ask yourself why nowhere outside the Bible does JC even get a mention? A man perambulating around an area controlled by the Romans, performing stupendous miracles in the presence of thousands, and the Romans don’t even mention him in any of their copious histories! A person such as this would have been seen as a great threat to the power of Rome and his actions thoroughly investigated and reported to Rome, and yet, outside the Bible, not a word, not a whisper, not a hint in reference to JC. Incredible! Unbelievable!

It is no wonder that Christians always refer to the wrath of god, for that seems to be his biggest flaw, rage; he is always “pissed off” at the results of his perfect creation. Why is that Jack?

How could your mother be godly? God hates women, they are according to the Bible, the initial cause of all the problems that afflict the world. Misogyny was one of the glaring faults of the early Christians. Paul said, “suffer not a woman to speak.”
Here you go again, dissing the Jews, this time the Jewish neighbour who suggested you go to church. Why is it that god selected the Jews as his pets and then abandoned them, without even letting them know that he was sending himself as the Messiah , in the guise of his son, and sacrificing himself to himself in order to forgive sin committed by humans against himself? Why weren’t the Jews let in on the secret that JC (god, Yahweh, Allah, the Great Manitou, etc.) was the expected Messiah? Did god turn on the Jews? So much for a special people.

What is this Christian fixation with blood? What a disgusting concept, someone always has to die to appease god. For the Jews it was animals and for the Christians their own god. But, JC, god, did not remain dead, and was ambling around the countryside less than three days later! Some sacrifice! Can an omnipotent, omniscient god really suffer or die? What a farce which with to build a belief on.Think about it Jack. Oops, sorry for asking a Christian to resort to critical thinking and reason, instead of just blindly accepting everything by faith. Just believe, don’t ask for evidence is the Christian way. Apparently god gave Christians brains and then demanded that they not use them.

“There is a hard reality, I know, to put your faith in a Biblical truth that cannot be verified by your own eyes.” This statement by you is an admission that you have no proof for all that you believe. America, Jack, has more Bible thumping, born again, evangelical, god fearing, Jesus freaks than any country in the world, including that moron, George W. Bush, and yet America has been almost constantly at war with itself and others, since its founding. Why is this Jack? And don’t give me that altruistic crap about preserving or spreading democracy. Even your present presidential race hinges on religious beliefs. It is impossible for anyone to become president of the USA without professing a belief in the Christian god, and that is not democracy.

“God’s wars cannot be called evil?” Why not? Oh yeah, right, all part of this kind, loving, benevolent, forgiving, omniscient being’s mysterious plan for humankind. What a load of bullshit. Where have all the talking, walking snakes gone Jack? What about talking donkeys, a man in the belly of a whale, fiery horse drawn chariots ascending skyward, worldwide floods requiring a 600 year old man to build a boat and rescue all the animals, seas parting to allow god’s once favoured people to escape their enemies, JC believing demons cause mental illness and driving them into a herd of pigs (raising the question as to why there were 2,000 pigs in a country where they are considered an abomination), and on and ridiculously on?

Why are you so self righteous and believe that only Christians have all the answers? Don’t you realize how utterly imbecilic, juvenile and ridiculous the Bible story is? It is crap, lies, fairytales, myth. Wake up Jack! If a man with your limited intelligence can be an officer in the US military, small wonder they lose so many wars. They are waiting for god to intervene. But he never does, even though Americans now consider themselves god’s chosen.

The Book of Revelation was obviously written by a deranged mind. The Bible starts with a ridiculous story so I suppose it is only right that it end with a ridiculous story. Ever ask yourself why an omniscient god would create Satan knowing that he would rebel and bring sin and evil into the world? Sin, anything that Christianity deems can be forgiven by asking god and giving a certain amount of money to the charlatans who call themselves servants of this invisible god..The only conclusion we can draw is that god created Satan because he wanted there to be sin and evil in the world.

Christians suffer rejection and persecution! If they did it would be because they are all morons. Resurrected bodies! This belief in an afterlife is what drives all Christians, but only because they are driven by fear, all encompassing, mind numbing fear, and cannot accept that this life is all there is, no parties with JC, no meeting friends and family in the sky, no streets paved with gold. Nothing Jack! Nothing.

Bill Hunter, another man of god, suffering from PTSD and carrying around an oxygen bottle. Thank you god for your benevolence.
Too bad you can’t reconcile anything without resorting to war and bloodshed. George Bush certainly believes and has stated that he is acting on behalf of god and now that bimbo, Sarah Palin has also stated that god is on the side of America. Is it something in the water down there that makes you people crazy?

What, no godly stories in reference to Watty Smith!

Just why shouldn’t we be proud of the fact that we are alive Jack, instead of wallowing in self mortification and loathing all our lives, grovelling at the feet of a non-existent being who threatens us with eternal torture and burning if we do not believe in and worship him without evidence, and yet described as kind, loving, benevolent. Who is responsible for all the evil in the world Jack? Your god Jack, the one who you believe created everything. The supreme fuck-up of the universe is what he would be for creating such a mess.

Get off your knees Jack, stand up like a man, quit snivelling, whining, lamenting, weeping, gnashing your teeth, praying, and in general wasting your life worshipping something that is not there. Truth is Jack, when you die, that is it, no heaven, no hell, no avenging god, no devils, nothing. Finis. Accept it Jack. I am supplying you with several sites that will help you find the truth about your beliefs, relying on reason, evidence, and critical thinking, instead of blind belief in a 2,000 year old book of fables composed by ignorant men.


To: JDHook@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company



From: Sandra Gonzalez
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Mr. Hook

As I write, with tears welling up in my eyes, I can’t seem to put the words to paper! Thank God, He chose you as the Messenger, and knowing that Jesus can soften the hardest of hearts, I pray for that ‘heart softening’ for all those I love, that rebuke Him.

The journey you speak of, very daunting. The tasks at hand, the witnessing of a Warrior’s death, a loss of a friend, a ‘brother-in-arms’, the agony, the pain – the Jubilation to share the TRUTH with those that remain here today.

Thank you for sharing with me today – I’ve been moved in more ways than one.

I admire, love and am GRATEFUL for those who CHOSE to sign their life away, (for FREEDOM, Country & HONOR) when they chose to enlist ~ these souls are very precious and dear to me. Does not matter where I am, when I am there, who is with me – if I am aware you have served our country – I will envelope you with love, kindness and sometimes if I get the opportunity, buy a Warrior a meal.
If I am not aware I try to take time to ask if that person is a Veteran, and pay it forward. Usually with both of us visiting ’emotion ville’

Thank you again Mr. Hook ~ this is (unfortunately) the tapestry of American (and other world history) History, culturally most ‘visitors’ to our great nation don’t know our history or don’t care or both.

May I have your permission to share this story with my “MYSPACE” friends?

If you prefer I did not – I respect that, and will carry this story in my pocketbook to share with others – those who are feeling down, lonely, depressed, unsure and those that do NOT know Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior.

I appreciate you ~ I agree with all of what you write
and I am glad that however you found my email addy, the Lord brought you to me. Thank you Jesus ~ Amen!

Sandra Gonzalez


From: Doug Krieger
To: JDHook@cox.net
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: Responses: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Well, Jack, you sure got the good, the bad and the ugly in your responses–not surprising. You ask yourself the question…Why is it that some folks are embittered by life’s incongruities, whereas others are mellowed by the stresses of life (Vietnam being a major stress to so many of us)? Some like to completely forget it ever happened – like a major train wreck – some, like this “Kaiser” e-mail guy get super cynical and attack your faith…determining somehow to defame anything that faith “has to do with it” and thereby bring a refreshing breath of what he thinks is reality in the midst of your affirmative “fantasies” (as he sees it).

I’m impressed you let it all hang out…I still believe there are no atheists in foxholes–I NEVER MET ONE! Really, you’ve got some guts to circulate the whole nine-yards and run the gamut in so doing. “The God of this world has blinded the minds of them who believe not…lest the light of the glory of the gospel of Jesus Christ should shine into them” – the guy that said that, Paul, used to go around killing Christians, thinking he was doing the religious leaders of his day a favor – but God snagged him. My sister was an ardent member of the “Hell’s Angels” – then one day she had a vision of hell – indeed, it literally scared the hell out of her – she became a believer in Jesus. Some of us come to the Water of Life kicking and screaming and are thrown in…others test the waters greatly before plunging in…still others calculate everything about the water before jumping in…finally, some come upon the water just seemingly by accident and fall in! Some see the water and can’t wait to jump in! Anyway–you get the drift.

Jack, you did right by what you related – your spirit was right – and the great majority of us veterans know that–God bless you in your future exploits for the truth that we share in Jesus.

Doug Krieger

**Doug is a fellow Vietnam veteran who has been an enormous blessing to me over the years. He also has a website that is filled with writings concerning sound Christian doctrine and Bible prophecy, which I encourage you to visit. Here is the link:
http://www.the-tribulation-network.com/ Jack**


From: Jim Williams
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Responses: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Thank you so very much, for you service, and your book, one that I plan to read from cover to cover.
Jim Williams
C/E, 187thAHC, ’71


From: Ken Blakely
To: Jack Hook
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Vietnam: The Manchus of Charlie Company

Jack (Sir)

I don’t know how you got my name and if I have visited with you in the past please forgive my absence of mind.I know this story and lost a dear friend and comrade in this Battle 3-2-68- Joseph Jerome Williams-an afro American CO medic who I trained with and went to Vietnam. We arrived in Nam just before Christmas Dec. 1967. I remember in Cu Chi after getting assigned to the 25th Div. Bob Hope and Co. were just a few feet away and we being both born again-Christians- opted for the Cu Chi Chapel to spend some time with our Maker and Savior pleading for strength for the mission. We shared our concerns about being properly trained medically for such a grave responsibility as well as if we had the steel to face battle with the Lord only at our side-FAITH. Psalms 91 was read as my grandmother had made me promise to read this often.Joe’s father was a Baptist minister I believe although the thought comes to me just now that he may have been of a Charismatic faith.It made no difference to me however.I had no idea this would be the last time I would see Joe until the second coming.

What is ironic is that on 3-4-68 I would be in a very severe battle in Hoc Mon Village. I lost three men Killed and about 15 of us wounded including myself-most of my platoon. I had no idea Joe was dead and had died so close to my location. I learned of the battle of the 4/9th while in Tay Ninh heading to the Cambodian boarder late in March 68. I went to the 4/9th aid station and asked for Joe Williams and they asked why I wanted to locate him and who I was. I told them the story of our friendship. I could see it was a painful topic but they related what they knew of the story and that Joe had been killed. I pains me to this day and I know not why some were killed and some saved. I would so much like to visit with someone who remembered Joe. I believe Joe may have been one of those executed in the death squad kill.

I have located many of my men with the help of the Lord. They too suffer from the horrors of war. Many thinking they will not be saved because they took human life. Others suffering from relationships failed-multiple marriages-estranged children etc. Many as myself feeling the effects of the spray that rained on us and then we drank the water after placing a pill in it that removed the bacteria but not the dioxin.I try and help these men with claims-Spiritual counsel-love and friendship. A true gift God has allowed me to enjoy until I leave this world.Brave courageous men who’s families nor America has any idea about what they did-saw-and experienced so many years ago.

I still trust in my Lord and Savior. I am still proud of my service to this country I love even in a time of it’s unpopularity.
Thank you for meeting with my brothers as are you also. Thank you for your service to our country. Thank you for sharing this article you wrote with me.

May the Lord bless and keep you faithful until His return-keep looking up our redemption draweth nigh.
In Christ

Ken Doc Blakely 2/12th Inf. 25th Div.


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